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Going back to Seinfeld:

George asks to borrow ketchup from the next table and is turned down by a surly couple. When they finally give him the ketchup bottle, he slaps the bottom and nothing comes out! Where do they think these things up? Talk about reinventing the sitcom!

If you analyzed that, the first thing you should realize is that that would never happen to Jerry or Kramer. It's character based humor because it would only be funny if it happened to George.

So, why is it funny? Elaine might have a problem if there's no toilet paper. Kramer, if the milk he drinks is bad and throws it up. But the thing about George is, all these minor little problems happen to him. And you know they happen to him because he responds to life's smallest indignities with complete apoplexy.

And even that wouldn't be funny by itself. It's funny because you can see that in other people. And sometimes, myself. Someone is posting with centered text on a discussion forum?! Why would you do that!? We're living in a society!!


So, it gets you to laugh at human nature, which is pretty good.

Another thing about Seinfeld is how intricate the plots are (somehow, the same theme will often occur in multiple storylines to different people) -- and how often it uses "analogies".

Something I never noticed before is how much continuity there is. There was a small bit in season 2 about how Kramer wanted to open a place where people could make their own pizzas. Then, in season 6, it happened. You normally wouldn't catch something like that, being so far apart.

And then they made that into an analogy for abortion:

POPPIE: No, no. You can't put cucumbers on a pizza.

KRAMER: Well, why not? I like cucumbers.

POPPIE: That's not a pizza. It'll taste terrible.

KRAMER: But that's the idea, you make your own pie.

POPPIE: Yes, but we cannot give the people the right to choose any topping they want! Now on this issue there can be no debate!

KRAMER: What gives you the right to tell me how I would make my pie?

POPPIE: Because it's a pizza!

KRAMER: It's not a pizza until it comes out of the oven!

POPPIE: It's a pizza the moment you put your fists in the dough!

I don't really think that's that fucked up. At least Chrono Trigger has one of the best game soundtracks ever.

Yeah, I read that. Bear in mind the original purpose of this thread was to highlight lines that were actually illogical, not just opinions that were a little bit of a stretch. Saying almost any CD is the best ever is inevitably gonna be a stretch because there are hundreds of years of music in existence and competition is incredibly high.

I can at least buy that Chrono Trigger would be someone's favorite music, even among all music ever, even if that person listened to a lot of music, and that such a person might think that Chrono Trigger has something more than just personal appeal, something to recommend it to other people.

And like I said, Chrono Trigger is at least arguably the best videogame music. For someone of a particular generation and mindset, videogame music might be the best music, hence CT's status follows by syllogism. It's like Rolling Stone calling Sgt. Pepper the best album ever. But where's Beethoven's 9th???? Or where was Segovia on their list of best guitarists??? Obviously, they're approaching things from a pop (and babyboomer) mindset.



For Shadow of the Colossus, I listened to some songs from it and immediately forgot them after they were done playing. It's not even good music.

I'm sorry that changing font to an appropriate size is too complex a technical challenge for Rare and the Xbox 360.