Charlie Brown's Christmas

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Flying Omelette		#61	[-]
Posts: 17531 (12/19/07 5:29 PM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Another thing that was annoying about the Frosty special was that every time someone talks to the rabbit, you have to wait through several moments of the rabbit pantomiming his response with herky-jerky animation, and then someone has to explain what the rabbit just said. "My feelings hurt, but you know I overcome the pain And I'm stronger now There can't be a fire unless there's a flame" - Seal "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end" - The Moody Blues
MaskedSheik		#62	[-]
Posts: 427 (12/19/07 5:33 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Captain Ladd Spencer wrote: Flying Omelette wrote: I've also been in gift exchange situations that were so lopsided that I might as well have not just gotten anything in return. In one situation, a bought a Super NES game for a family member. Her gift in return was a Garfield Valentine's Day figurine. Yeah. Obviously, it was something she got really cheap because it was left over from Valentine's Day, and it was inappropriate, too - it has "Red Hot Lover" written on it. I wouldn't have expected something as expensive and extravagant as my gift in return (I knew I was purposefully splurging), but something with a little more thought beyond, "Hey this is only 25 cents and the slogan written on it won't matter because it's Garfield!" would've been nice. I haven't gift-exchanged with that person since. Oh man, I remember once when I was much younger, my older sister brought some Christmas presents. My brother got a new copy of Donkey Kong Country 3 (so yeah, this was ten years ago at least), while I got a deck of playing cards. As a semi-related note, I also got Donkey Kong Country 3 as a Christmas present. Though I was, like, six years old, and easy as the game is, it was a little over my head.
Flying Omelette		#63	[-]
Posts: 17531 (12/20/07 7:35 AM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Last night we watched The Year Without a Santa Claus. Aside from the appearances of the Heat Miser and the Snow Miser, this one doesn't seem to hold up as well as some of the others. Part of it is that some of the characterizations are weak. Jingle, Jangle, and Ignatius are really generic, and aren't as memorable as Hermie, Rudolph, and Cornelius. The story details are a little sketchy. Okay, so the Mayor of Southtown, where it never snows, will declare a holiday for Santa Claus if they can get it to snow there. So they get it to snow, and he calls every other mayor in the world and they all declare a vacation day for Santa Claus. Uh, but...Santa Claus already declared he was taking a vacation day, and everyone already knew this. It was all over the papers. I don't really get how the mayors saying it prompts the children to send Santa gifts. This is another story in which Santa Claus is proven to exist yet some people don't believe in him. They seemed to forget that there was supposed to be a day of summer at the North Pole. I was waiting to see what this would be like and everyone's reaction to it, but it never happens. Is it just me, or does Santa appear to load up his sleigh and go delivering presents TWICE at the end of the movie? There's the big scene where he changes his mind and tells everyone to prepare for Christmas. He gets on the sleigh and is seen going down "Santa Claus Lane" in Southtown. This is followed by scenes of kids waking up the next day to find presents under their Christmas trees. But then after that, somehow Santa ends up back in bed again. He gets up, runs out the door, turns towards the camera and yells, "I dreamed bad things!" (???????), and hops on the sleigh to (apparently) go deliver presents again. The pacing is also somewhat slow. "My feelings hurt, but you know I overcome the pain And I'm stronger now There can't be a fire unless there's a flame" - Seal "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end" - The Moody Blues
TWEETER911		#64	[-]
Posts: 4905 (12/20/07 8:29 AM) Phantom King Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I hate Christmas movies as much as I hate Christmas music. SHUMA-GORATH IS A HEALER OF MIND BODY AND SOUL LET HIM HEAL YOU TO DEATH WITH HIS TENTACLES Kunagi: "GO AWAY ALREADY!!" S-G: "Eep." My EO characters (slight wierdness) Musings of a bird
Kairobi King		#65	[-]
Posts: 1108 (12/20/07 9:31 AM) Eldean Rebel Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Even It's a Wonderful Life? Hey, I don't think anyone's mentioned the Claymation Christmas Special yet. Does anyone remember that one? Is it just me, or does Santa appear to load up his sleigh and go delivering presents TWICE at the end of the movie? There's the big scene where he changes his mind and tells everyone to prepare for Christmas. He gets on the sleigh and is seen going down "Santa Claus Lane" in Southtown. This is followed by scenes of kids waking up the next day to find presents under their Christmas trees. But then after that, somehow Santa ends up back in bed again. He gets up, runs out the door, turns towards the camera and yells, "I dreamed bad things!" (???????), and hops on the sleigh to (apparently) go deliver presents again. Sounds like the implication is that it was all just a dream. ~ Kairobi King ~
Crawl and 1OOO		#66	[-]
Posts: 11114 (12/20/07 10:25 AM) The Fuzzy Physicist Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The most disturbing part of that special was when Mrs. Claus confesses she often fantasizes about being Santa Claus. See how your opinion ruined Christmas for everyone!
Kairobi King		#67	[-]
Posts: 1108 (12/20/07 11:33 AM) Eldean Rebel Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	(She would make it clear starting in November that any money she gave me was to be saved for buying presents and I couldn't spend it any other way.) I'm glad my mother didn't do that because if I see something for a good price that I think someone I know would like for a Christmas present, I'll buy it no matter what time of year it is and just store it away until it's time. I would hate to have to do all of my Christmas shopping in the last two months. ~ Kairobi King ~
Flying Omelette		#68	[-]
Posts: 17531 (12/20/07 1:22 PM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Kairobi King wrote: Even It's a Wonderful Life? Hey, I don't think anyone's mentioned the Claymation Christmas Special yet. Does anyone remember that one? Is it just me, or does Santa appear to load up his sleigh and go delivering presents TWICE at the end of the movie? There's the big scene where he changes his mind and tells everyone to prepare for Christmas. He gets on the sleigh and is seen going down "Santa Claus Lane" in Southtown. This is followed by scenes of kids waking up the next day to find presents under their Christmas trees. But then after that, somehow Santa ends up back in bed again. He gets up, runs out the door, turns towards the camera and yells, "I dreamed bad things!" (???????), and hops on the sleigh to (apparently) go deliver presents again. Sounds like the implication is that it was all just a dream. I don't think that is the implication and if it is, that's probably the most pointless use of "It's all a dream" in history, because: 1. "It's all a dream" is usually used to resolve an unresolvable situation (eg, deus ex machina). In this case, the story had been resolved. 2. What are the "bad things" he's referring to? Nothing all THAT terrible happened. Snow Miser and Heat Miser maybe? Is this suggesting these characters don't really exist in this show's universe and he just dreamt them? Then what the hell do we accept as real? 3. Why is Mrs. Claus narrating it like it really happened? 4. If he was asleep all this time, how'd he get so prepared for the sleigh ride? Really, they could have just ended it after the kids get their presents and Mrs. Claus finishes her narration. That scene of him waking up again and getting in the sleigh again is completely extraneous and it makes no sense. If they had to fill out a few more seconds of time, then they should have used it to show the day of summer at the North Pole. PS. I love "It's a Wonderful Life", but I don't really think of it as a "Christmas" movie. I also remember the Claymation special. Magnus posted a few clips from in the YouTube thread awhile ago. Maybe we can look for that one tonight if Crawl wants to watch another Christmas special. "My feelings hurt, but you know I overcome the pain And I'm stronger now There can't be a fire unless there's a flame" - Seal "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end" - The Moody Blues
Flying Omelette		#69	[-]
Posts: 17531 (12/20/07 1:39 PM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Of the specials we've seen so far, this is how I'd rank them: 1. A Charlie Brown Christmas (Great) 2. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Great) 3. The Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire (Good) 4. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (Good) 5. The Year Without a Santa Claus * (Okay) 6. A Garfield Christmas ** (Mediocre) 7. Frosty the Snowman (Bad) 8. Twas the Night Before Christmas (Terrible) * - Snow Miser and Heat Miser are the only thing that really put this one above "Mediocre". Without them, in fact, I could even go so far as to label it "Bad". ** - I agree with this guy that the beginning of A Garfield Christmas is actually good. It's only when it gets to Jon's family's house that it starts going downhill, but too bad that accounts for most of the show's time. "My feelings hurt, but you know I overcome the pain And I'm stronger now There can't be a fire unless there's a flame" - Seal "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end" - The Moody Blues
Captain Ladd Spencer		#70	[-]
Posts: 1532 (12/20/07 2:00 PM) Behold the many uses of my amazing BIONIC ARM! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I caught the end of Twas the Night Before Christmas the other night. It started at the part where the mice where in the clock, woeing that they didn't fix and there'd be no Christmas, and then this scary as all fuck Santa appears. I didn't have my glasses on, and at first I thought those three red circles on his cheeks and nose were his eyes.
Magnus CROWE		#71	[-]
Posts: 877 (12/20/07 2:14 PM) Snooze Alarm Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I also remember the Claymation special. Magnus posted a few clips from in the YouTube thread awhile ago. Maybe we can look for that one tonight if Crawl wants to watch another Christmas special. Yes, that's one of my favorites. If you don't like Frosty the Snowman then be sure to stay clear of "Frosty Returns". It's so terrible that I don't even know why it gets shown every year with the original. The animation and voices aren't even the same. Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great. - Mark Twain
Flying Omelette		#72	[-]
Posts: 17531 (12/23/07 9:22 PM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	We watched Rudolph's Shiny New Year, which is a sequel to Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. This was bad. Really bad. The worst of the bunch so far. I wouldn't even know where to start it's riddled with so many problems. The biggest problem is that it's too easy to sympathize with the vulture and the Baby New Year. The vulture is just trying to keep from dying and you can't blame the Baby New Year for not wanting to be around anybody when they're acting like jackasses towards him. This is a prime example of why I frown on the use of a baby as a protagonist. You can't tell what this character is really thinking at any given moment. What if he doesn't WANT to be the next Father Time and wants to do something else with his life? It makes Rudolph and his friends seem like annoying antagonists when they're constantly trying to drag him back to a life he might not want. And I really hate these "you have to be what you were born to be" plots. The moral completely undoes the moral in the Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. In the end of that story, everyone realized they were being too hard on Rudolph. In the end of this one, the moral is, it's okay for people to act like jackasses towards you because they're only doing it out of happiness. The writers... 1. Have forgotten that Rudolph can fly. 2. Are unaware that "bong" has an alternate meaning, creating some hilarious unintentional double-entendres. 3. Are extremely manipulative with the dialogue to make Eon (the vulture) seem like a bad guy. When the Baby New Year goes with him, it seems he legitimately wants to because Eon is the only one who doesn't act like a jerk towards him. But then they have Eon say something like, "You'll remain here forever...as MY SLAVE!!" The resolution for Eon is a total copout. So all he had to do to keep from dying was to laugh? Then why did the camel say all that nonsense about how he only had an eon to live?? There are no memorable songs. There is one song that is, in fact, really annoying. Rudolph asks this caveman if he can help, so he starts singing this song about "raining sunshine" that has very few lyrics and is mostly just repeating "It's raining sunshine" over and over again. If I asked someone for help and they did that, I'd punch 'em out. At one point, the narrator says that Baby New Year makes a boat out of a giant conch shell, but it's clearly a clam shell. There's this great line about how the year 1202 (or something like that) is the year all the fairy tales we're familiar with actually happened. Boy, I can imagine this show really screwing up some first graders. There's another part where a whale offers Rudolph to ride in his mouth (instead of on the boat he had been using) so that he'll be safe from the vulture. So, then of course Rudolph decides it would be better to ride on top of the whale, where he'd be completely vulnerable again. Perfectly logical. The story has no real structure and is mostly just a bunch of random crap. "My feelings hurt, but you know I overcome the pain And I'm stronger now There can't be a fire unless there's a flame" - Seal "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end" - The Moody Blues
Crawl and 1OOO		#73	[-]
Posts: 11114 (12/23/07 11:57 PM) The Fuzzy Physicist Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Everything you say is true. But what about the show's positive qualities? Compared to the CGI monstrosities of today (eg., The Incredibles, B Movie), some character designs at least have some visual appeal. Also, some of the show's time myths, particularly the Archipelagos of Past years, were kind of interesting.
Captain Ladd Spencer		#74	[-]
Posts: 1532 (12/24/07 1:00 AM) Behold the many uses of my amazing BIONIC ARM! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The other night I caught part of one of those CGI-Rudolph specials. It was Rudolph and the dentist I need to submit as an SAB with Wind Waker Link (unless it's already been done), and they're on this island with some hippo queen. I watched some song about the hippo queen fixing toys, and turned it off. Later, Rudolph was with his girlfriend, tells her he loves her, and she starts flying.
Flying Omelette		#75	[-]
Posts: 17531 (12/24/07 9:37 AM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Also, some of the show's time myths, particularly the Archipelagos of Past years, were kind of interesting. The problem I had with that part is that even for a fantasy it requires too much suspension of disbelief. If there's an island for every year gone by, shouldn't they eventually run out of islands? Or does a new island appear every year? It's never explained and if the second is the case, then you would think they'd overrun the entire planet eventually. I also vaguely remember seeing this special years ago when I was a kid and it bored the hell outta me, so even as a kid I didn't enjoy it. It was Rudolph and the dentist I need to submit as an SAB with Wind Waker Link (unless it's already been done), That one hasn't been done but one time on Late Night with Conan O'Brien, Conan was talking about his first role in television and he said he had a clip of it. The clip he showed was the scene from Rudolph where Hermie tells the elf boss that he wants to be a dentist. "My feelings hurt, but you know I overcome the pain And I'm stronger now There can't be a fire unless there's a flame" - Seal "Some try to tell me thoughts they cannot defend Just what you want to be, you'll be in the end" - The Moody Blues

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