I bet Master GayLeon NinetyNine already knows~!
nevermind, found em. poor snape.
nevermind, found em. poor snape.
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Someone spoil Deathly Hollows for me. |
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Posts: 4905 (07/16/07 6:45 PM) Phantom King |
SHUMA-GORATH IS A HEALER OF MIND BODY AND SOUL LET HIM HEAL YOU TO DEATH WITH HIS TENTACLES
Kunagi: "GO AWAY ALREADY!!" S-G: "Eep." My EO characters (slight wierdness) Musings of a bird
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Posts: 10201 (07/17/07 12:23 AM) Lunitari Mage |
I dunno. There was a YTMND that supposedly had the last page of the book scanned, but I didn't read it, so I don't know if it was an obvious fake or
not. I assume that Snape is going to die regardless of the truth behind his actions in book 6, though.
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Posts: 4905 (07/17/07 1:44 AM) Phantom King |
Hagrid sits on him, and then farts him to death.
SHUMA-GORATH IS A HEALER OF MIND BODY AND SOUL LET HIM HEAL YOU TO DEATH WITH HIS TENTACLES
Kunagi: "GO AWAY ALREADY!!" S-G: "Eep." My EO characters (slight wierdness) Musings of a bird |
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Posts: 10201 (07/17/07 1:54 AM) Lunitari Mage |
I'm betting on strangulation and brain consumption by a horrifying Zombie Dumbledore.
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Posts: 818 (07/17/07 12:14 PM) Lord of Women's Lingerie |
Potter better die!
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Posts: 11009 (07/17/07 12:28 PM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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Harry and Voldemort make up, then make out.
Ron and Hermione die in an unrelated event. |
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Posts: 336 (07/17/07 9:50 PM) |
I want all of these to be true.
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Posts: 17460 (07/17/07 9:59 PM) Frickin' Fred Durst on Stilts |
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Posts: 10201 (07/18/07 1:24 AM) Lunitari Mage |
I don't know if any or all of these are real, but it's pretty comical either way.
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Posts: 1531 (07/18/07 8:08 AM) Behold the many |
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Posts: 689 (07/18/07 12:08 PM) |
Flying Omelette wrote: Ha ha! That's hilarious thinking of Mr. Potter as being Harry Potter in old age.
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Posts: 10201 (07/18/07 4:30 PM) Lunitari Mage |
The whole book has been leaked at this point. Every page was scanned. It's everywhere online.
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Posts: 11009 (07/18/07 4:59 PM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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Posts: 10201 (07/18/07 5:55 PM) Lunitari Mage |
She said it wasn't clear whether the material published on Photobucket.com is the book's text or a fraud. From what I've seen, I don't think there's any way that it's a fake. |
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Posts: 11009 (07/19/07 7:14 PM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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There was an article about this in the Wall Street Journal, which I've read.
Apparently, Scholastic had big plans of getting the book to everyone at the exact same time. They used algorithms to decide how long it would take to ship to any neighborhood in the country, depending on the carrier. However, they did not have control through the final step, and some book sellers (DeepDiscount.com seems to be the culprit) sent out their copies of the book a week early. They had a legal agreement with those companies that they'd either ship according to Scholastic's predictions, or they wouldn't ship until after the release date (meaning, people who ordered through them would actually get them late). So, Scholastic is planning on suing them. The full story is here. |
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Posts: 4905 (07/20/07 7:47 AM) Phantom King |
Kira dies.
SHUMA-GORATH IS A HEALER OF MIND BODY AND SOUL LET HIM HEAL YOU TO DEATH WITH HIS TENTACLES
Kunagi: "GO AWAY ALREADY!!" S-G: "Eep." My EO characters (slight wierdness) Musings of a bird |
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Posts: 2453 (07/20/07 12:17 PM) I Look Like an Egg |
I never thought I'd see the day when a dotcom messed up a shipping order and the problem is that it shipped EARLY. |
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Posts: 10201 (07/20/07 6:05 PM) Lunitari Mage |
The book is really good, maybe my favorite one, though I'd have to let some time pass to be sure. And I did preorder it, it's just that I couldn't
help getting a head start with that leak. It is so hard to read, as they're high-glare digital camera images and you need to darken and zoom in to read
properly.
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Posts: 1734 (07/21/07 3:57 PM) and my bird can sing too! |
my a scanner darkly grahic novel is 11 weeks late and i ordered through borders.
 "Birdies!"
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Posts: 336 (07/21/07 10:19 PM) |
I liked years ago on the Simpsons when JK Rowling told Lisa, "Oh, he grows up and marries YOU."
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Posts: 10201 (07/22/07 12:41 AM) Lunitari Mage |
I have to say that for all the spoilers that have been posted, there were still plenty of surprises. There were also a few things that I was surprised
didn't get spoiled. It did seem like there might have been too many deaths too frequently for all of them to feel noteworthy. Some of these characters are
hardly even around in recent books, and barely even show up before being done in.
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Posts: 11009 (07/22/07 12:04 PM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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I hope the way this book ends is that the Muggles are sick of the wizards' racism, and just atom bomb 'em away.
(I think Honen would approve of that as well) |
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Posts: 10201 (07/23/07 12:44 AM) Lunitari Mage |
I saw someone else who thought it would be cool if Voldemort were finished off with a pistol or other muggle invention.
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Posts: 10201 (07/23/07 3:25 AM) Lunitari Mage |
Okay... I've heard the best way to defeat Voldemort.
Accio Voldemort's Spinal Cord. |
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Posts: 1734 (07/24/07 12:21 AM) and my bird can sing too! |
no, the best way is challenge him to kortal kombat. then use a babality.
"Birdies!"
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Posts: 11009 (07/24/07 8:58 AM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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Has this some how morphed into the thread for actually discussing Deathly Hollows?
Plot-wise, one thing that I didn't think made sense, and couldn't believe they didn't address it -- though some think it leaves leeway for a prequel -- was that Dumbledore was able to beat the wizard that had the Deathstick to begin with. Or, for that matter, that ANY wizard had been able to beat the wizard with the deathstick, despite that tales of it getting won are splattered over the pages of wizard history. After thinking it over a little, I guessed one explanation could be that nonsense about how the wand wasn't "really" won. Maybe the guy Dumbledore beat hadn't won it, so Dumbledore could take it like any normal wand. However, if that was the case, then even for Dumbledore it wouldn't have been the true Deathstick. I guess it's never PROVED that it was, but everyone seemed to think it was. (Such as Harry's long explanation as to why HE is really its master). Random spoiler note: Of those spoilers that CB007 posted, every single one was true (I couldn't really follow the number of children Harry had at the end -- it was at least two, because of James and Albus, but I guess there could be been a third I missed). When I saw that many, I just laughed them off as people making up random spoilers, and totally forgot them not only until I read the book, but until I look at that picture again. On the other hand, I guess that does indeed emphasis the need to read these books quickly to a pure, unspoiled experience. As for the book, it's pretty good. Once the story kicks into gear (like I said, around page 500), it keeps going. On the other hand, there's a lot of nothin' happening earlier in the story. Part of the story is just of Harry, Hermoine and Ron aimlessly wandering around the world, and there's no story at all there. Not only that, but Rowling does not effectively capture the flow of time. She communicates that they've been wandering for months by simply stating that. I thought Stephen King did a better job communicated the length of a long journey in the last volume of The Dark Tower, when, despite that they were journeying and thus there wasn't a lot of plot advancement, there were still things to describe, or things they did. Example, when they made hides from the deer. WAY too much luck also plays a role in what happens. And while I said the ending of the story is more or less good, some things are kind of abrupt. The opportunity for making Voldemort into an actual character wasn't taken. He's not even much of a threat; he comes across as a pathetic loser. I also don't think it makes any sense that Voldemort could have thought he was the only one to have found the room of lost stuff. It's frickin' full of hidden stuff from other people, of course other people have found it before! . |
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Posts: 11009 (07/24/07 11:25 AM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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As far as "luck" goes, the most blatant example, which almost everyone has complained about because it's so
glaring, is that when Harry and friends are walking through the woods, they just so happen to stumble across some other people aimlessly walking through the
woods, and are at just the right time to overhear a conversation that is important to the plot.
Then when they find the cursed cup in Gringots, they can't touch it without being burned. So, how do they deal with that? By simply not caring that they're being severely burned, apparently. When no harm comes to Ron, Hermione or Harry despite that they actually are being harmed, you can pretty much tell then that there's no way those characters will die. Then, when they have one last horcrux artifact to destroy, but no obvious way of destroying it, what do they do? AS SOON AS THEY GET IT, a minor character casts a spell that has never been mentioned or foreshadowed before, and it just so happens to destroy horcruxes. Well, that's not sloppy or abrupt. |
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Posts: 11009 (07/24/07 9:33 PM) The Fuzzy Physicist
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I guess I'll post some more positive comments now.
The novel doesn't just talk about being master of the elder wand -- ownership comes up enough to be a legimate theme. There's the goblin concept of ownership, how whoever makes something owns it, regardless of who pays for it. And there're objects that are valued enough to actually put your soul into. Forget protesting the Harry Potter books because they have witchcraft. There really is a materialistic theme there! But I guess there's no one to protest that: Who is an ascetic anymore? And there's the ownership of wands in general, where the wand chooses the wizard. That was in the first book, but the last book explains it's a symbiotic relationship, where the wand and the wizard learn from each other and go on adventures together. For some reason that speaks to me a bit. It may very well be a bad thing about myself, but I can form a bond with material objects. As an example, I'm proud to still have my original NES. Performing maintenance on it, like replacing its 72-pin connector, lets me give something back to it for what it has given me. For another real world example, I've heard various people say [musical] "instruments have souls". (To compare that to a videogame, in Soul Calibur, everyone has named their weapons, EXCEPT the Edge Master, who apparently does not think his weapons have souls, but are merely tools) It's weird that both the good guys and the bad guys in that novel have attachments to material things. Voldemort's attachment is blatant; Harry has a fondness for his original wand, and repairing it is one of the last things he does. He also wants to keep the cloak as a family heirloom. Hell, looking back through the series, Mr. Weasley enjoyed collecting Muggle artifacts. Supposedly, the thing that separates Voldemort from Harry is that Harry can love people, but I guess that doesn't preclude Harry from loving objects as well. Maybe J. K. Rowling thinks she has put her soul into a book? I'm trying to remember some other things I liked about the novel. I like Snape as a character, but he has ALWAYS been given the shaft in the novels in terms of actually being used. He might have had some poignancy in the final novel, but you can't help but feel it could have been done a little better. He doesn't really exist IN the novel; his story is practically exposition.
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Posts: 10201 (07/24/07 10:04 PM) Lunitari Mage |
One thing I didn't get is...
By disarming Draco, Harry became the true owner of the Elder Wand even though Draco wasn't using it at the time? That felt kind of odd to me. While I'm posting, another thing... there was also a scene where Harry is holding more than one wand when he casts a stunning spell and the effect is multiplied. Why don't all wizards use a handful of wands, then? |
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