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Vincent 2004 |
did anyone see "metropolis".... |
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what do you think??..it is not bad to me..
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TailsTheFox |
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The old silent movie, or the anime? I want to see both.
Error Bird, where are you going? |
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HiRider |
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I saw the Anime not to long ago. I liked it.
Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam!
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Vincent 2004 |
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the anime..
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jupTheSecond |
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I don't know anything about the anime, but the original B/W film was very well done and original...for it's day. The plot seemed to be somewhat complex...up until the last few minutes worth. (Where the film becomes almost impossible to follow, due to the massive amounts of film footage that has forever been lost in the sands of time.) If I remember right, it's all about a society that lives on a floating city in the clouds. And, this society is split into two classes: The small Upper Class who get to enjoy life and all it's luxories and the hugh Lower Class citizens who work long hours inside the bowels of the City and, through their hard work, make all the luxories of the city possible without benefitting from it. One day, one of the Princes from the Upper Class explores parts of the City and falls in love with a pretty Lower Class woman. His Love-at-first-sight condition is so strong, that he soon goes in search of her, down in the dark and dangerous world of the City's machery core, where the Lower Class must constantly slave away.
There was also a sub-plot about a scientist who is creating an AI android. And, I think the Lower Class workers were getting ready to fight for freedom. But, the movie became so choppy that the plot lines for these events were all but lost. I think the Prince found his love in the end, but I'm not totally sure. |
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HiRider |
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Hmm... The Subplot of that is the Main plot of the Anime.
Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam!
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James FP |
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It also sounds a lot like Aladdin...
![]() ![]() For we shall take over ze world! Mwa ha ha ha ha ha!" DEATHAMSTER'S NEST! |
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Crawl and 1OOO |
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sethrashnoo |
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I've never heard of either of them, but it sounds interesting.
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Flying Omelette |
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We saw the Metropolis anime tonight.
It has an interesting art style, but that's about the only really positive thing I can say about it. There's too much expository dialogue and absolutely no emotional attachment to any scenes or characters. It's also confusing in the sense that characters seem to just happen to be in the right place at the right time a lot. (Example: When the detective finds out where Rock is hiding with the girl.) It's especially annoying since the city is supposed to be really huge, but everyone just keeps running into each other. There are also some parts that bugged me with how dumb they were. The most glaring is that the girl sits on the throne and is about to destroy the world, there's a bunch of guards with guns in the room - no one thinks to start shooting?
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Crawl and 1OOO |
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I'm sorry, but this movie was REALLY bad -- one of the worst I've seen in a while.
They also mention at least three times that robots are assigned to certain zones. The first time, Rock shots a rogue robot marked with "Zone 1",
and says, "You're out of your zone." Okay, so we know robots have zones and can't leave them. Then the robot detective delievers long
expository dialogue about how robots have assigned zones, and can't leave them, and how zone 3 is for sanitation, etc. Then, Rock is looking for two
people in zone 3, and someone again says, "Zone 3 is for sanitation. Only robots can go there."
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Flying Omelette |
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I remember Akira being very similar in style and deliverance to this movie:
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Crawl and 1OOO |
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Of course, Ebert gave this movie four stars. It doesn't surprise me. It seems he doesn't judge animated films by the same standards that he does others. If this was a live action movie, I'm sure he would've noticed some of the problems.His review is almost entirely focused on the visuals. Well, okay, but Blade Runner had better visuals, was better all around, but Ebert complained about that one. |
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Amagons brother |
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Wow, reading this it sounded vaguely familiar (but not glaringly so), so I went through my stuff and found that I'd bought the anime a few years ago and
still haven't gotten around to watching it. Doesn't sound promising.
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Crawl and 1OOO |
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Might as well keep the complaint train rolling.
-Why would the whole city celebrate the Ziggurat if only Duke Red and the president know what it's for? It's not like America tried to get the whole country to celebrate the atomic bomb or something before it was used. -How can the detective not know anything about Metropolis? Doesn't television (or newspapers) exist in this world? I've never been to New York City, but I have some idea of what it's like. -For that matter, why would you hire a bumpkin to investigate something in Metropolis if said detective knows nothing about Metropolis? Isn't street smarts one of the more valuable traits for a detective to have? -The detective makes allusions to Japan and international law, but, like I said, there's no real information as to what the world beyond that shown in the city is like. -The military coup was sort of meaningless, because we don't know what motive the military had. (The guys in the military, like everyone else in the movie, had no personality) -The robots easily could have been symbolic for immigrants, or the lower class, or something - even though the robots having no personality underminded that. But then what's the point of the other poor humans and their rebellion? Even in the literal story alone, the human rebellion went nowhere. |
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Flying Omelette |
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One of the challenges of art, particularly in a movie setting, is to tell a story without actually telling it. "Show, don't tell" is the phrase
associated with that. Far too much of the dialogue is spent explaining stuff. Another example I thought of is when the leader of the human rebellion says that
families live three or four to a room in the slums. Why not actually show it? The general idea I got is that the director wanted to show a lot of neat visuals
but doesn't think the visuals should be used to tell us anything. One problem I had with Terminator is that there are a lot of scenes of people driving
around in cars and explaining stuff, but that movie at least did have a scene that showed what the future was like.
The human rebellion didn't amount to anything, either. This isn't really the fault of the movie itself, but I still have to wonder - the movie came out in Japan in May 2001, but everywhere else it was released several months (in some cases not even a whole month) after 9/11. I have to wonder what audiences thought of a movie whose message is that the Gods punish humans for building a tower and the tower falls so soon after that. Also, what the hell is up with these anime movies where a boy with hardly any personality meets up with a girl who can't remember anything and has no personality as a result? Castle in the Sky was like that, too. That's not really a good idea for your protagonists.
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Crawl and 1OOO |
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The praising New York Times review of this movie also mostly focuses on the visuals. I guess there's really no point in going on more and more about how
incoherent the story is, because apparently that's not what anyone thinks is good about the movie, anyway. Roeper, on the Ebert and Roeper show, didn't
like the movie. He didn't care about the story, either, and (like me) wasn't even that impressed by the visuals.
Incidentally, I had insomnia when making my previous post, and I never got back to sleep after that. |
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