Manhunt gets initial AO rating from ESRB

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feeds@yuku.com (CLOUDBOND007) — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:28:46 GMT

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=14964

Manhunt 2 was completely banned in the UK, but Rockstar successfully appealed.

Rockstar has won its fight to overturn the BBFC's decision to refuse Manhunt 2 classification.
The Video Appeals Committee voted four to three in Rockstar's favour, leaving the BBFC to either classify the game...

Re: Manhunt gets initial AO rating from ESRB

feeds@yuku.com (CLOUDBOND007) — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:09:58 GMT

Or how about if Dark Lord was ripping off the Mana Clan's....
nah, let's not go there.

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feeds@yuku.com (Captain Ladd Spencer) — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:42:54 GMT

What if you were ripping off their chestburster penises with pliers?

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feeds@yuku.com (CLOUDBOND007) — Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:00:26 GMT

Tragedy!

But there have been some unfortunate content omissions, too. When we first wrote about Manhunt 2, we referenced a particularly nasty death sequence, in which Danny could use a pair of pliers to literally rip the testicles off a hunter. That murder has been completed removed from the updated build of the game. Not a big deal for us, as it only amounts to one kill out of dozens.

I think this game might actually be a little too violent...

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feeds@yuku.com (Crawl and 1OOO) — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:13:28 GMT

I'm just apathetic about the whole thing. I'm not shocked by Rockstar, I'm not interested in playing a videogame just because it's "shocking", I'm not interested in debating this issue in terms of free speech, I don't care what effect this controversy has on Rockstar's business. It's just boring to me.

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feeds@yuku.com (Bomberguy221) — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 03:53:03 GMT

And yet the video game industry would probably be so much better off without them...

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feeds@yuku.com (Facilitypro) — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:47:18 GMT

What's funny is I can't see anything that's more offensive, graphic, mature, or what have you in Manhunt 2 than what is in the original Manhunt. I mean, Manhunt had scenes of stabbing people's' eyes out with glass shards, bashing in heads with bats, point blank gunshots to the face, jamming crowbars into people's brains, trussed women getting executed...every other word was "fuck" in the first half...I think, in true rockstar fashion, this is a publicity...

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feeds@yuku.com (Bomberguy221) — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 03:20:12 GMT

We're protecting them from becoming seven year olds yelling "You got my fucking burger wrong!" at McDonalds. And doing a bang-up job at it.

I think the most important lesson we've collectively learned so far is that if kids hear or see something, they will immediately become curious about it. Parents who avoid the issue altogether tend to make things worse, because now the kids learn something to twist Mommy and Daddy's arm with. It's the attraction of...

Re: Manhunt gets initial AO rating from ESRB

feeds@yuku.com (Crawl and 1OOO) — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 07:14:28 GMT

And that was in long shot.

I thought I heard there was some technical rule, like one use of "fuck" gets you a PG13, while two is an automatic R.

The older system for movies was probably more appropriate. I mean, if a movie has one or two profanities, and a kid in the audience doesn't know what they mean anyway, then they're just gonna be another vocabulary word they don't know the definition of. And so it just goes over their heads.

When I...

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feeds@yuku.com (Flying Omelette) — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:25:04 GMT

Airplane was rated PG and had a brief shot of a topless woman. City of Lost Children was rated R and the only reason Crawl and I can figure out that it was is because it also has a brief shot of a topless woman.

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feeds@yuku.com (Bomberguy221) — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:12:22 GMT

"The Break-Up" had it, and that was PG-13.

But I was quite surprised at how many movies got a PG rating when I was a kid. When I watch them today, I can't see them getting that rating anymore.

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feeds@yuku.com (Amagons brother) — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 05:08:35 GMT

Weird thing to me is how movie ratings seem to me to have become actually more restrictive in many cases. Up until the early 1990s, I can think of several PG movies that featured either nudity or the word "fuck," yet after about 1992 I can't think of a single movie with even breasts or "fuck" in them that weren't at least an R at that point. For example, Logan's run had nudity and was a PG, Spaceballs had the word fuck in it and got the same rating. Look to the...

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feeds@yuku.com (CLOUDBOND007) — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:13:48 GMT

Another thing people were upset about is that the Wii version of Manhunt 2 would let you act out different kinds of killings with the motion controls.

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feeds@yuku.com (Flying Omelette) — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:27:11 GMT

I never said it was "artistically mature" and nor do I think it is, but I don't believe something really has to be to still be inappropriate. One problem is that screaming, "NOOOOOOO!" is just always going to make something seem unintentionally funny now.

There is more to the Curtis Blackburn character than just that scene, too. He's also a pedophile.

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feeds@yuku.com (Crawl and 1OOO) — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:18:47 GMT

Well, okay, that can be an example of something that might "deserve" an R rating for content, which addresses my first point. But for my second point, I still don't think that scene has artistic maturity. That first scene, while potentially "disturbing" in terms of content, is actually kind of ... um ... funny. The way it is acted just seems silly.

And, in general, not just for "disturbing" things, I find that when art tries too hard for an...

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feeds@yuku.com (Flying Omelette) — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:45:40 GMT

We already talked about it IRL, but I'm kind of in agreement that Killer7 is not really appropriate for a younger audience.

Mainly for these two scenes WARNING!!! The first one is very disturbing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXwWjxbzuIk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z1F_e6doNA

Maybe I'm just being...

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feeds@yuku.com (Crawl and 1OOO) — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:09:58 GMT

I'm of mixed mind about this whole rating system.

For the most part, I think it's stupid and overprotective. Like Halo being an "M". If that game were a movie, there'd be nothing in it to keep it from getting a PG!! Maybe -- MAYBE -- a PG13.

But remember that Raiders of the Lost Ark once got a PG and had a face melt, which is far more graphic than anything in Halo.

Or what about Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas getting an AO for Hot Coffee?...

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feeds@yuku.com (Bomberguy221) — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:36:09 GMT

Nintendo doesn't surprise me. Sony, however, kinda does. I would think they might not mind as much, considering San Andreas and God of War were both caught in the crossfire of Hot Coffee summer and both of those games were on their system. Then again, parent satisfaction might be their main goal at this point, too. Still, really odd.

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (for GCN) was rated T. That one is a little more explicit in its characters dying, especially if Ike loses. Some...

Re: Manhunt gets initial AO rating from ESRB

feeds@yuku.com (CLOUDBOND007) — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:52:34 GMT

Nintendo and Sony have said they will not allow an AO game to be released, banning the game if it doesn't get changed to M.

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feeds@yuku.com (MaskedSheik) — Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:25:10 GMT

I think Fire Emblem get an E, actually. It would certainly receive an E+10 today, though. Super Smash Bros. Melee got a T, though, and was probably one of the reasons ESRB made the E+10 rating. It's really quite tame for a T-rated game.

Manhunt gets initial AO rating from ESRB

feeds@yuku.com (CLOUDBOND007) — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:37:38 GMT

They have 30 days to change the game and resubmit, but it sounds like they want to fight to have it changed to M the way it is.
It must be pretty gruesome stuff since it sounds like it's for violence, not sex.

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